Should UK Hold a Second BREXIT Referendum? | July 2019 Assessment

Should UK Hold a Second BREXIT Referendum? | July 2019 Assessment

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A new referdum over BREXIT or at least a referedum over the BREXIT deal is requested by many MPs and activists. What do you think?

What is happening?

As Boris Johnson seems to be favorite for becoming the next Tory leader (and the next UK Prime Minister) of the country), many voices (from the Remain side) are pushing harder for a second Referendum over BREXIT or at least a referendum over the BREXIT deal.

This surge in their activity comes as many are worried that Boris Johnson is more likely to push for a NO Deal BREXIT.

As you surely remember, since the first BREXIT referendum 2016, there has been many voices (mainly from the Remain side) constantly requesting a second BREXIT referendum.

If initially the Final Say camp was seen just as an emotional reaction to losing the referendum, later they got more support and credibility as the BREXIT negotiations stagnated and created uncertainty wile a NO Deal BREXIT threated to break the country unity.

BREXIT broken the traditional political framework

This year (and we’ve seen just half of it) has brought 2 new political actors: BREXIT Party and Change UK, wile Tory and Labour has seen big internal turmoil loosing political momentum.

BREXIT also gave a distinct advantage for the Liberal Democrats that campaigned for remaining in the EU.

As you can see the Leave and Remain political camps managed to take control of the political agenda. And there is no reason to believe things will change soon.

Even more, Northern Ireland and Scotland high political figures (and voters in the referendum) have express their discontent with the BREXIT agenda. This is particularly worrying and we all understand why.

Now, as you read this, Tory members are set to elect a new leader (and the next PM) and BREXIT is the main subject on their agenda as well.

Essentially, both, Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt, are promising a better BREXIT deal. But, if this deal will not be accepted by the EU then Boris is promising a firm, No Deal BREXIT with no delay wile Jeremy is more reserved on the options.

What now?

The BREXIT negotiation has proved that going out of EU is harder and more complicated that initially advertised.

Even the PM, Theresa May lost her mandate in the process as she admitted in her resignation speech.

The BREXIT deadline have been postponed twice and many MPs are looking to get another delay but even the EU negotiators are reluctant to this perspective if no tangible change is in perspective (i.e. SNAP elections or a Second BREXIT Referendum).

Would a second referendum over BREXIT/ Final Say solve the problem?

One thing is certain: a new BREXIT referendum would certainly qualify as a legitimate reason for EU to postpone the BREXIT deadline.

Obviously the Remain side (as represented by Lib Dems, Change UK and various MPs in Labour and Tory) is hoping that UK people have changed their minds and a crushing victory  will get BREXIT off the table for ever.

The Leave side (i.e BREXIT Party, many Tory MPs) threats with street protests if the 2016 Brexit Referendum is not respected and claim that, anyway, a second BREXIT referendum will have a similar result as in 2016.

Labour is willing to support a new referendum but only over the BREXIT deal on the table as agreed with the EU. Even so, if such a proposal wil be rejected in a referendum it could lead to a de facto BREXIT cancellation.

So, what do you think?

Should UK hold a second BREXIT Referendum?

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145 Responses

  1. Elizabeth Anne Nightingale says:

    No absolutely not it was a democratic vote 17.4 million voted to leave, nearly 15 million voted to remain. The leave vote won -we leave.

  2. Michael Richard Bennett says:

    NO!

  3. Heather Walshaw says:

    While the remoaners think they have a chance of overturning the 2016 referendum by any means the country wont reunite, brexit needs to happen then finally remoaners wont have that option then the healing of the country can begin and not before

  4. Heather Walshaw says:

    we didnt honor the 1st referendum yet i voted to leave im not stupid i did know what i was voting for and no i didnt change my mind. Unfortunatly i was only 10 in 1973 so i couldnt vote Not to join in the 1st place i had to wait 43 years to get a vote to leave all i saw in these 43 was my country lose all its great industries and most of all its pride so no i dont want another referedum i want out with NO DEAL, the eu hasnt exactly gone out of its way to help the situation of leaving one deal and one deal only no alterations why would we want to be involved with dictators like this and then we have the french throwing stones at our fishing boats and ramming them when its our season to fish not theirs and we do nothing no navy went to their rescue so i say out and take back all what is ours and dont you dare try and use our waters in a new deal with the eu they are ours and we need them back for us and as for not having a steal industry well you all think on imagine another WW and we cant produce our own steal what will happen then

  5. Jim Turner says:

    The result of the first referendum has not been enacted yet!

  6. Anonymous says:

    Both leave campaigns lied and were supported by fake news and criminal overspending and voter manipulation.

  7. Alwyn Barber says:

    They need to deliver on the 1st one before any more votes..

  8. William Arthur Turner says:

    Since when did a referendum have to be repeated time and time again it’s unpalatable they seem to think that if we keep having one every time it doesn’t give the answer I want in the end it will .NO WAY !.

  9. ben says:

    Article 50 is clear and only has provision for a single extension starting at the end of a very specific 2 year period. That ended on the 13 Apr 2019. The second extension is a Breach of Article 50, there is no provision for it, as such article 50 is very clear that the on 13 April 2019 all treaties ceased to apply.

  10. J khan says:

    We were lied to by omission and are still being lied to. No vote should count unless based on fully disclosed truths. Brexiteers are still screaming about costs and immigration.noe of which was relayed truthfully by the Brexiteer groups. If the truth had been shouted as loudly and they’d listened as carefully to it, minds would have reacted differently and Brexit died in infancy.

  11. mike easterbrook says:

    are these remainers so thick keeping on about 75 that was a trade agreement we still want to do trade deals with the eu and the world and not pay billions to do it our parliament should be in charge off our laws not an unelected body who are answerable to nobody

  12. Tony Williams says:

    The people voted to LEAVE in a totally democratic vote, its just the losers who can’t stand democracy, you know who they, The Liberal UNDemocratic party, and all the other idiots.

  13. paul eidsforth says:

    implement the results of the 2016 referendum , as promised by the majority of the elected representatives of the uk in the houses of commons, then wait for 40 years and hold a second referendum. the answer is simples

  14. David Smart says:

    No definately not
    .If the first was undermined and made null and void by a second vote that was in conflict with the first then a second vote would have no standing
    .honour the first

  15. Robby Morris says:

    El comprende? you Brexiteers voted but where not aware of the Northern irish situation so a new vote where you KNOW ABOUT IT is necessary.

    When you get to who brexit effects, it becomes much more of a complex and multifaceted problem that is not solved merely by angry brexiteers or remainers and their stubbornness.
    It becomes a social issue for Northern Ireland and the good friday agreement.

    So yes we need a vote to keep freedom of movement from one side of Ireland to the other, for any irish citizen part of the good friday agreement – the big compromise which the tories keep hiding from you, calling it a backstop which will merely need a transition period. you only prove your ignorance by claiming we can just leave, regardless of the consequences –

    So you brexiteers who say ‘leave means leave’ or words to that effect, proving a simplistic level of understanding – you have no idea of the scale and you voted for leave with no idea about Northern Ireland.

    • Robin F Phillips says:

      Robby Morris. You are ignorant. There has never been a so called hard border. Even at the height/depth of the troubles you could walk/drive from the ROI to the Six Counties! Get some education!

  16. K says:

    Eu residents should be included in the voting as it happened for the Scottish ref. – the first ref. Was undemocratic by definition in nuce

  17. Mathieu Robbins says:

    Brexit is such a Stu-I’d idea. And as for strange statements on the 2016 sham referendum ‘not having been acted on’ uhm.. has anyone looked out of the window recently and seen the current mess?! That, in the real world, is what you voted for. Time to grave the opportunity to make up for it.

  18. Clinton John Longbon says:

    We had a vote ..if we have another one we need a best of 3, then 5, then 7 etc …..We are meant to live in a democracy…the vote was leave the E.U..it was a democratic vote, why do we need a second one, we don’t vote again and again with a General Election or anything else…the country voted in 2016 !!!

  19. george kennedy says:

    no no no

  20. Sean Coleman says:

    We can’t have another vote, when the action hasn’t happened on the first one.

  21. AJ says:

    The first referendum was based on lies, deception, fraud, dodgy money and Russian interference. We need a second clean referendum!

  22. Phil says:

    Yes of course we should have another referendum.

    A lot of promises were made during the referendum campaign. We were promised that a trade deal with the EU would be negotiated before invoking Article 50, and that this would be the “easiest trade deal in history”. We were promised all sorts of financial benefits, including £350m per week for the NHS. Predictions of economic hardship, factory closures, job losses trade disruption and border issues in Ireland were dismissed as “Project Fear”.

    If you now support the idea of leaving the EU without a deal, then you have to accept that this is NOT what people voted for in 2016. Nobody knew things would go so disastrously wrong back in 2016. To forge ahead with Brexit without any kind of confirmatory vote would be immensely foolish.

  23. P.ROWE says:

    Europe is crumbling and in a few years time will disintegrate. I don’t want to be part of it when it does. It has become a cesspit of corruption. It’s finances have never been audited, it is time for us to leave and forge our own way in the world. Within 5 years of leaving we will be a booming nation again.

    • Mark Palmer says:

      Go on line, Google “EU Accounts” and you’ll find them all there, a 140 page PDF for each year, independently audited. They’ve been passed by the European Court of Auditors, an independent body – an experienced auditor from each of the 28 nations, appointed by their own country and answerable to their own Government, not the EU.
      But I’m sure you’d prefer to wallow in your own prejudice and just keep on regurgitating thoroughly discredited myths.

  24. James Lee says:

    Those people that voted to leave didn’t know what they were voting for. “Out” mean Nout, as 3 years trying (and failing) to define what “Out” has shown. We need another Referendum to get US ALL out of this mess, so we can go about saving what we have left of our economy, our world standing, our society. Remain & Reform!

  25. Heather Maddock says:

    The first referendum was based on lies and misinformation and so the result cannot in all fairness be valid. The people need to be told the truth and so be able to make an informed decision.

  26. Mickeyminime says:

    No no no no no no no and no!

    Leaving is the right thing to do, not just for this country, but every generation past, present and future.

  27. peterdollins82@gmail.com says:

    2016 had many valid voters cut from the voting roles, 4 close UK Citizen friends born here from a small circle. Quittlers Project fear claimed Turkey will join the EU. Lived Greece 74 to 84, never be allowed by Greeks from PM to peasant. By 2016 Turkish journalist Ece Temelkuran revealed Erdogan’s Dictatorship leanings so ALL EU countries were behind Greece to stop Turkey joining under Erdogan. Albania was dog whistled up on people fleeing 1991.92 by Quittlers. By 93 when Jonathan Spink & I walked Albania for two months EU foodstuffs were on the streets calming things to make the unendurable bearable. By 2016 Albania had been brought up ‘miraculously’ as Albanian neighbours said. Plus all the other better known lies. Quittlers now say no market deal with the EU, the opposite of what they said in 2016. Very few indeed voted for what is now on the table, almost nobody. Then how many young voters are on the rolls how many are empty spaces? NO validity AT ALL in the Referendum. Never was. Now, less then zilch..

    So what does JC and his supporters think they are doing gaslighting the UK, lying, denying and delaying towards Exit? Any form of which is opposes our interests in every single way?

    All Best,

    Peter.

  28. Cathie says:

    It does NOT respect the public vote to insist on carrying out their wishes as shown by their votes in 2016, when those wishes were based on lies and misinformation spread in illegally funded campaigns. There are criminal investigations in progress. The vote was respected by the efforts made to find a non-catastrophic way to leave – unfortunately all the “easiest deal in the world” predictions turned out to be tosh. Now we know that it would be very undemocratic to force through the outcome of that 3-year-old, tainted, advisory vote. Government and parliament may be choosing to treat it a a mandate, but that is their choice. The referendum I voted in was an advisory referendum. To preserve democracy, we need a properly organised referendum.

  29. Anonymous says:

    We are not being given what we were promised.
    We were promised the same deal as we have, the single market and £350 million a week more for the NHS. What we will be getting is no deal or a terrible deal which ties us to the EU along with a cost of £39 billion and the NHS sold as a trade deal.

  30. Denise Sinclair says:

    I think we should stay in the European union we are better of we get work
    This be it is rubbish

  31. ED says:

    I would like a 2nd referendum , what is undemocratic about getting an opportunity to vote on the terms of which we leave , i’m really worried that we are going to leave with no deal and it will trigger a recession , i’m self employed and i haven’t properly recovered from the last one

  32. David says:

    Yes, we should vote again. No one voted to be poorer.

  33. Christine says:

    We were promised an easy deal, and the Good Friday Agreement was largely ignored during the referendum campaign. Now we have a deal, we should vote as to whether we want it, ‘no-deal’ or the deal we already have.

  34. Christine says:

    We were promised an easy deal, and the Good Friday Agreement was largely ignored during the referendum campaign. Now we have a deal, we should vote as to whether we want it, ‘no-deal’ or the deal we already have.

  35. Pete says:

    Let’s keep kicking this can down the road, everyone has told lies, made misleading comments both leavers and remainers, for every statement made by so called experts, saying it is a mistake to leave the EU and they can prove it, there is another so called expert saying they are wrong and that they can prove it, and so it goes on, the truth of the mater is NO ONE KNOWS !!!!! There are too many variables involved for both leavers and remainers. I do not want to stay in the EU because i am British by birth, i am NOT a European by birth. I do not want and never have wanted to be ruled by Brussels or any other EU Capital apart from London.
    I think the biggest problem why we are in such a mess is nothing to do with the will of the people, by having a 2nd vote, how would that sort the problem out, if leave won, parliament would still fight the result, if remain won then those people who wished to leave would be pushing for a 3rd vote, were would it end, the fault is placed solely with our current bunch of remain MP’s in Westminster. They are happy playing party politics and getting one over each other (and taking money for it), if the MP’s had done what their constituents has told them to do then we would not be in the position we are in now.but as they keep telling us they know best. If that was the case how on earth could after 3 years, the worst treaty that anyone (both leave and remain seem to agree) could have agreed to come out and have any chance what so ever of being agreed.
    There was a very interesting program about the talks (on BBC 3) following Barnier and Co, and it is well worth watching to see how we were treated and how we unconditionally surrendered to the demands of the EU.But what could we have expected from a remain Prime Minister.

  36. Marian Donovan says:

    Yes yes yes we were lied to it wasnt explained to us and it was corrupt and it would be a disaster for the country

  37. Alison Healey says:

    Even if you don’t recognise the flaws in the referendum, which was legislated as advisory and therefore didn’t require the super majority that would have been necessary to enact a Bill for a binding referendum; even if you still don’t feel outraged at being insulted by being lied to; even if you are easily persuaded that the pig’s ear is actually what you personally wanted; even if you are satisfied that the people most affected were denied a voice; even if you don’t care that businesses have gone under or moved to other EU countries; even if you accept that the govt also gave notice on Euratom (which gives us access to cancer treatments that we will lose) unnecessarily and without asking the people; even if you don’t give a hoot about the Good Friday Agreement; even if the Tories’ in-fighting, calling a General Election, having 2 leadership contests when they should be trying to unravel the most complicated problem; even if you think a statute can be amended by a sentence in a leaflet and without parliamentary agreement; even if you really do believe that politicians with their own agendas are more believable than experts who have considered the question critically, following evidence and not ignoring facts that detract from their preferred conclusion.

    You have to acknowledge that not all other people that voted Leave 3 years ago feel as complacent. You have to acknowledge that May triggered Art 50 at a point in time which strangely coincided with avoiding the EU Anti Tax Avoidance directive but without even the beginning of a plan on how Brexit could actually be achieved. You can’t scream “Democracy” whilst refusing to test how others feel since the flaws have been exposed. You can’t say “well they haven’t delivered on the first one yet” because that shows a failure to understand that we can’t just do our own thing and then rejoin with our current benefits if it turns out to not be the sunny uplands that were promised.

  38. Terry says:

    It is patently obvious that there is no longer a majority to leave. A true democracy allows the electorate to change its mind. We could hold another referendum or take the sensible way out by simply revoking Article 50.

  39. Anonymous says:

    With opinion this divided, the only way to settle this once and for all is with a second referendum. The last referendum was fought on lies, we now know project fear is very real, both Tory candidates are prepared for job losses and have said as much in their leadership bids. We know there isn’t going to be #350 million for the NHS, we also know that the last referendum was tainted with foreign money and interference.
    People are much better informed this time round and if the answer is still the same then it would settle the argument and we leave.
    It’s been 3 years since the last referendum and people are allowed to change their minds.
    We know the EU army is a pipe dream. We know that we control our own borders, we’re an island. We have control of our own currency, interest rates, our monetary policy. We don’t have to adopt the Euro, which was a lie peddled by leave, we don’t lose any sovereignty and we have opt outs and veto against any further integration.
    We also know that it was a lie about Turkey, Albania, and all the other countries joining the EU.This was a myth created to scare people into voting leave.
    This time the vote will be on the facts, and they are undisputed. Remaining gives us more freedom than leaving. We keep the NHS, we keep our public services, we don’t become an off shoot of the USA, with private healthcare, the biggest cause of bankruptcies in the US, we don’t have to lower our food and animal welfare standards. We get to keep our manufacturing base and we don’t end up permanently harming our economy. We are the gateway to Europe, lets protect what we have and build on what we’ve got.
    Lead Europe, not leave Europe.

  40. Andy Smith says:

    We should take the course of action that provides the best outcomes for our citizens and our businesses. Jeremy Hunt has explained that some businesses will go under if we leave without a negotiated deal because the consequent imposition of WTO tariffs will render them uncompetitive in their key European markets, but that this is necessary in order to honour the 2016 referendum. He hasn’t explained what the up side is. The National Interest should trump all other considerations. If someone can explain in detail how leaving the EU will be more beneficial to the UK than remaining then I will support it. A further referendum will be an opportunity for people to do just that, provided they try. The last time round the campaigning was all about slogans, with promises made that have not come to pass. We need campaigns of substance and detail for such a momentous decision. This is not ‘best of three’ or ‘best of five’. It is not a case of carrying on until we make the right decision. If a further vote yields the same result based on the facts as we know them now then that’s it.

  41. Denise Wicken says:

    I wasn’t allowed to vote in 2016 and I’m still disenfranchised and still furious. I’m quite convinced that if there was a referendum now it would go the other way because enough people have realised what a stupid idea it is to leave the EU!

  42. James Gandy says:

    I think that the U.K. Should have a second referendum because previous to the first referendum the British public were (and still are) largely unaware of the importance of the E.U. and the significance of our relationship with it.
    I think that the U.K. should have a second referendum because an incredible sum of money has not been released to our NHS which alone should tell us that this was never on the agenda of the various governmental bodies implementing Brexit.
    And lastly, I think that the U.K. should have a second referendum because bendy cucumbers for strawberries was not a good deal at all. And I still haven’t seen a bendy cucumber.

  43. Penny M says:

    Because there years have passed and more information has now been published. Parliament is at an impasse trying to implement Brexit. A new vote may show that if it is Leave them they have to commit to the will of the people and implement the Withdrawal Agreement to prevent a no deal crash out and all the ramifications that goes with that .. or Revoke Article 50 to give breathing space and implement a Working Committee of cross party and business people to thrash out the terms of an agreement suitable to UK and the EU

  44. A Sane Person says:

    The 2016 referendum was based on lies and deceit, and was, therefore, undemocratic.
    All referendums should require a supermajority (e.g. 60%+) before any decision is implemented. The catastrophe of the last 3 years could have easily been avoided had this been a requirement of the 2016 referendum!
    Leave supporters cannot provide any tangible benefits for leaving other than debunked propaganda and emotive nonsense!
    There needs to a confirmatory vote to determine if public opinion has changed over the last 3 years!

  45. Mark Langton says:

    We now know what an Armageddon Brexit is… lets vote once we are sure of the deal, Brexshitters of course will not want this as they know they will be annihilated.

  46. Louise says:

    The referendum in the first place was flawed – an incredibly binary question was posed to a non-binary situation. Everyone defines Brexit differently and in places where referenda are often used they require a super majority to implement a decision. Allowing such a close result to create such a huge change isn’t democratic, it’s ignoring half the country.
    If it was going to be a fair referendum, they should have outlined what they meant by Brexit. If it was no deal, fine, but say what that means so that the populace can decide. The goalposts have moved so often. Now there is a deal, we should have the option to vote for the deal vs no deal vs no Brexit. Our politicians certainly don’t seem capable of making a decision or working across all political spectra for the greater good. It’s all in the party’s interest currently.
    I am utterly dismayed at how horrible people are being on the back of this situation. Name calling, increased racism and xenophobia, increased aggression – it certainly doesn’t feel even close to “great” Britain to me any more.

  47. Peter Lawrence says:

    The 2016 referendum was based on lies “on an industrial scale (Prof Michael Dougan). Brexit was ill defined and after 3 years the Tory party which initiated it has still not decided what Brexit is. They should define Brexit and then let people have a vote as to whether they want it or wish to remain and the vote should be open to 16 year olds, all overseas UK residents including those for more than 15 years and EU citizens living and working and paying taxes and insurances in the UK.

  48. We need a Referendum with two clear options once both possible options are decided so whether its No Deal vs Remain then that is then clear what the decision is.
    I also think we should firstly have a full public scrutiny of how much we benefit from the EU and any areas of improvement needed as the public need educated in it particularly as some people do not seem to understand the basics – I have now looked into so many areas and its clear we are better in the EU and we need to be strong within the EU alongside close neighbours Germany and France etc =
    also if we cannot stay in the EU I suggest next best is Scotland and Ireland stay in a Celtic Alliance and join with the Nordic nations of Norway Iceland etc which we are nearer anyway in many cases.

  49. Davethebrave says:

    Another referendum would be the THIRD referendum. The first was to Enter Europe and the second was just a snapshot in time of a desire to leave. Current polls overwhelmingly suggest that today’s snapshot would be to remain in. I don’t think referendums are democratic. By definitions, only Elections are truly democratic, so I say put brexit on hold and let an election be fought with brexit as one of the items on the agenda. The elected representatives of the people decide on how best to guide the country on all matters. THAT is democracy.

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